Rather than comment on Marv Knox’s address to the TBC meeting Friday in Dallas, I will link the Baptist Standard’s on-line edition.


Well said as usual, Marv.


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  1. David Lowrie says:


    I agree Marv Knox’s comments were quite insightful. I especially identified with his comments related to “Clarify identity” stated below:

    Clarify identity. “The BGCT is much larger than the Baptist Building,” he said, acknowledging that many Texas Baptists—and often the Baptist Standard—have used the terms interchangeably. “So, if people don’t like something the executive director does, something the Executive Board proposes or a program the Baptist Building puts on, people who are bothered by it think they are angry and/or annoyed with the BGCT. And that’s just not right.”

    Marx Knox is right. I believe this is one of our struggles in terms of capturing the heart and the passion of our people. As I see it the BGCT is not the Baptist building but it is the Baptist people scattered across our state and deployed around the world trying to do more “together”.

    As our convention charts a course for the future we need to be reminded who we really are. I believe a close look at our church profiles would reveal that the average BGCT church averages less than 100 in Sunday School. This church has a full-time pastor who is struggling financially to make it week to week, so he cannot afford to go to a convention meeting unless it serves as a “vacation”.

    This church is struggling to stay relevant in a world changing faster than they can keep up with. The church wants to reach it’s community but struggles to make much of a head way. They want the BGCT to be a source of encouragement, and equipping because they cannot afford high price consultants.

    This BGCT church gives to the Southern Baptist Convention (over 3000 churches last year) because it always has…some give out of tradition, but most give because they still believe the Cooperative Program is the best way for them to touch the world. They are too small to send missionaries on their own, or to start a children’s home or seminary, but the Cooperative Program gives them the opportunity to be part of a movement bigger than themselves.

    For this average BGCT church the face of the SBC is not Paige Patterson or Al Mohler, it is the face of Lottie Moon seen in the faces of 5000 missionaries around the world. Some would argue these churches are uninformed or naive, and this could be true to a certain extent because their pastors have not talked in the pulpit about the Baptist battles, they were too busy trying to survive and they were embarrassed by what was going on. So most of the people know little or nothing about our struggles except for reading an occasional article in the Baptist Standard, or in their local newspaper when we made the headlines usually for all the wrong reasons.

    The average BGCT church simply wants to touch the world and to follow Jesus with all their hearts. As we chart a course into the future I hope and pray we find a humble bold leader who can embrace who we are and help us choose a broad, bold path into the future, large enough for all of us…especially for those churches who may have been forgotten.

  2. David Lowrie says:

    Additional thoughts: As I thought of the average BGCT church, I felt it must go without saying that our churches speak different languages and come from different cultures, but our “heart” language is the language of “grace” spoken in the Kingdom.

    The BGCT is like “practicing heaven on earth”. We come such diverse backgrounds and cultures yet our hearts beat as one for the advance of the Kingdom. Unity for us is not uniformity, but rather a “oneness” only found in Christ.

    Needless to say words have a hard time capturing adequately the face of the BGCT unless we see it in the face of Jesus.

  3. Lee says:

    David Lowrie said, “The BGCT is like “practicing heaven on earth”. We come from such diverse backgrounds and cultures yet our hearts beat as one for the advance of the Kingdom. Unity for us is not uniformity, but rather a “oneness” only found in Christ.”

    Amen to that!

    We spend a lot of time going to meetings, talking about Baptist “unity” and trying to do things that we think will bring it about. But in reality, all we are really doing is advancing our own agenda.

    All the denominational entities, and the denomination itself, the state convention, the national body, exist for one purpose and that is to preach and minister in the name of Jesus Christ, who is our Lord and savior. But we behave like the purpose of these entities and denominational structures are there for us to claim a piece of them for our own benefit.

    We’d have Baptist unity, and Christian unity tomorrow if the Holy Spirit got hold of all of us at the same moment, and gave us a good shaking.

    Thanks, David.