For the first time in my ministry career, I have found myself on staff at a church that has become pastorless. Our former pastor succeeded in leading what was an aging neighborhood congregation in a transitional, diverse, inner-city neighborhood to examine itself, look at the future, and make enough necessary changes to get into position to experience a time of growth and development. Beginning with a renovation of a preschool and children’s area of the building in need of a serious upgrade, starting a small groups ministry, reaching out to younger families and couples, and eventually adding a contemporary worship service, the church has numerically remained about the same size that it was when he came, about 275 people in worship. But it has experienced the death of about 150 of its members over his tenure, and they have been replaced with younger families with youth, children and preschoolers, and a number of younger and middle aged couples who are more reflective of the make-up of the neighborhood that is transitioning into a more affluent haven for a very diverse group of mostly professional, highly educated career people who want to move back into the city to get away from commutes into the downtown area that run as long as an hour and a half in a city with virtually no real public transportation. About the only part of town that is “hotter” than ours, in terms of property, is the south central area that lies along the one light rail line that exists. We’ve just been told this week that we are scheduled to have one run through our area on the next go round.
So, we are in the process of selecting a search committee and gathering the names of potential candidates to consider. We have put a notice on the SBC’s job board, and with the BGCT’s electronic resume service with a description of our church and the kind of ministry we have. The association has also been notified. So far, we have received about 50, give or take a half dozen, resumes from potential candidates. We have generally stated that the salary is negotiable, based on experience and education, that we are looking for someone who has about five years of pastoral experience, at least a Master’s degree from a seminary, and have described ourselves as an established inner-city congregation with small groups, traditional Bible study, two services, both contemporary and traditional, diverse in cultural background, and racially diverse. About a third of our active members are hispanic, and we have several Asian and African American families and individual members. We are diverse in age, with about a third of the congregation being considered senior adults, a third in the 40-60 age bracked, and a third under 40, including about 50 preschoolers, children and youth, and a burgeoning, growing nursery population. We had 10 babies born into the church in the span of about three months last year.
It is interesting to note that of the 50 or so candidates from whom we have received resumes, only about a dozen meet the experience and educational requirements. They are either young guys in their first church out of seminary, or still completing a degree, or men in their 50’s and 60’s called into ministry after a career in another field. Only one is from Texas, and most of the others, much to my surprise, are from states that Southern Baptists would consider “pioneer” fields. We have a lot of candidates from Indiana, Ohio and the upper Midwest, and from California and the Midwest. Many of them are natives of Southern states. It seems to me, with an abundance of ministers in the South, the SBC would be encouraging people to move North and stay there. But that doesn’t seem to be the trend.
Something else that I noticed was the relatively short period of time most of those who have sent resumes have served in their current position. There are few that are in their third year, most are somewhere between 18 months and two years, and there are a lot with less than 18 months of service in their current position. Our previous pastor was here for sixteen years, and his predecessor for somewhere near 14 years, so our church is experiencing only its second pastoral search in 30 years. It may be hard to match expectations with individuals who have served for such a short period of time.
As the search progresses, I’ll share some more insights, particularly about the dynamics of a search team and the congregation as it waits to find out who its new pastor will be.
15 Comments
June 22, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Lee, best of everything to you all during this time. Ken and Blake Coffee could help the committee if they have not already found such help. Blessings.
June 22, 2008 at 10:19 pm
In my city, the Baptist churches in the “trendy” side of town where the hot property is moving inside the city limits are all dead, dying, or disbanded. Baptists seem to have very little ability to reach the population that has the education to hold down a job that makes them affluent enough to afford a $500,000 in the inner city. But then, most of the more liberal mainline churches, and the more liberal Baptist churches, are doing even worse.
June 23, 2008 at 1:26 am
Wow! More than half a membership dying in 16 years! I suppose my church is more skewed toward younger families. I pray that this church finds the right man. To have successive pastors serve 14 years or better is a high complement to the unity within your congregation.
June 23, 2008 at 7:03 am
Lee, I am convinced the most difficult thing we ever ask a curch member to do these days is serve on a Pastor Search Committee. We trained our committee here at the church I now serve about the middle of May and they have just now started looking at resumes, having spent the bulk of their weekly meetings just praying together and learning each other’s heart. This process must be a prayer-driven process. How else will we ever know who God wants to be the pastor? I will be praying for you particularly. I have been in the situation you are in. It is usually uncomfortable, but my advice is just trust the Lord and be patient. We will pray for His will in your life as well as that of the church.
June 23, 2008 at 7:39 am
Lee,
Speaking for myself, your observations of this process should be very interesting.
I pastor a church much like the one you just described, except mine is not in an inner city situation. It does sound like yours if further down the transformational road than my church is, but we are upgrading our children’s facilities, trying to start cell groups, and have just started a contemporary worship service. The 50% or so that are over 55 are having a hard time watching their church change, but the under 55 crowd is growing impatient at the same time. I will be reading to see how the church processes the type of pastor they need to find and the direction that they want to go. Will they see this as a chance to return to the past or to step more boldly into the future? Also, how much involvement will they allow you to have in the process? When I served as a Minister to Young Families at a previous church that was pastorless, the staff had no role in the pastor selection process or even in the visioning process. It was strange.
Thanks for sharing your story.
Todd Pylant
June 23, 2008 at 8:26 am
I’m praying for you and your church big guy.
Tim
June 23, 2008 at 11:43 am
Lee,
Good afternoon. I found your blog through sbcvoices. Pretty sure that my husband and I saw your church’s posting on at least one of the sites you mentioned. We found it very interesting to say the least. Although I do believe we decided against sending my husband’s resume given the qualifications listed. Definitely praying for your church body!
Greatly appreciate the insights you are giving on this. I look forward to continuing to hear more as the process goes on.
Have a blessed day,
Camey
June 23, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Lee, I think you should be the pastor. How about that? I’m serious.
June 23, 2008 at 9:57 pm
THE CHURCH IS NOT TO BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS.
YOUR QUALIFICATIONS RULE GOD OUT.
EDUCATION IN A SEMINARY IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR A GOD-CALLED, SPIRIT-FILLED MAN OF GOD.
June 24, 2008 at 8:14 am
Lee,
I don’t guess that your church would be interested in calling a Lady as a pastor? I know a couple of really good ones.
Tim
June 24, 2008 at 8:24 am
Paul,
Are you suggesting that a Spirit-filled man of God who is called to serve as a pastor would deliberately avoid a seminary education? I seriously doubt that our church would turn down someone they genuinely and sincerely felt God had called to serve as our pastor if he didn’t have a seminary degree, but I also doubt that a Spirit-filled man of God who was called to the pastorate wouldn’t immediately seek to equip himself with seminary training.
Tim,
While we do have some members who wouldn’t object to a female pastor, as a whole, the congregation is not very likely to call one.
June 25, 2008 at 6:40 am
Lee,
Longtime reader, first time responder.
Having served for the better part of two years on a PSC your post on this topic stirred up some recent memories.
Ours was a mid sized congretation, 500+/- attending each Sunday, with multiple services and staff members. Each of the individuals chosen to serve on the committee were humbled to have been chosen. We set the tone early (1st meeting) that prayer would be the primary component of the process.
We posted the opening on the usual sites and were only able to attract a limited number viable candidates. However, some were very entertaining, like the homesteading dairy farmer from Canada that was being called into the ministry.
After more than a year of the process, and several hundred resumes, we resorted to speaking to people in the ministry about credible candidates. Our eventual pastor was one that had NO intention of leaving the church he was pastoring.
Many church members prayed constantly for the process. We included a public time each Sunday in each service as well. We would have times when we would meet as a committee where members would come in and pray with and over us. Our purpose was to seek the Lord’s will in this process.
My advice to you would be to seek out times when you could meet with the members of the team and pray with them. We had some staff that would do that and it was extremely encouraging to us. Other staff members never made that effort though I am sure they were in prayer for us.
Rick Davis described it best: “It is the worst and best process for selecting a pastor.”
The intentional interim pastor is highly recommended and I’m sure you are familar with that.
Your’s will be a delicate position. Your church will need leadership during this period that can only come through staff and that will lead some to determine that you are the man for the job which may or may not be the case. If it is not the case that could result in issues down the road, be sure to use the wisdom that you have been blessed with.
mm
June 25, 2008 at 10:05 am
Mike,
Thanks for the advice, and for the prayers. In just the week and a half since the pastor’s departure I have learned that a] this is an extremely delicate position, but it is one from which leadership is not only needed, but demanded, at this particular time and 2] sifting through the many resumes from candidates will require much wisdom, prayer, time, and discernment.
I think our church is very special. It has retained some elements of its tradition and past, particularly among the senior adults, that give it character and provide level-headed guidance. Since I first started serving in churches, at age 18 as a Home Mission Board (now NAMB) student missionary in St. Louis, I have always managed to become a de-facto minister to senior adults. And yet, we have young people who have insights and vision for the future that go beyond some of the most progressive churches I’m aware of. Our previous pastor did an outstanding job of tapping into that, and bringing it forward in a way that few traditional churches have been able to do. We’ve been stuck in a rut for a while, but I think our need now is for revival.
Thanks for reading.
June 25, 2008 at 11:21 am
Lee, has your church considered the intentional interim process? Your church seems to meet the criteria suggesting it would be especially beneficial.
August 23, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I have one thing to say about your predicament. Bummer. I don’t like to offer advice much…it usually falls on deaf ears… My husband is a senior pastor here Washington State at a SBC… AND is currently trying to go back to school and finish his degree. We were “thrown” into ministry 13 years ago, and just haven’t had the opportunity -nor the time to go back. God directed, we followed…and that’s the way our path was directed. I mean, who knew! Ya know?? Not everyone has there “seminary” life plotted out… I will however say this to you, God has who wants for your church. That’s a “duh” statement know…but, don’t put so much “emphasis” or criteria on having finished a MDiv. God does not always work in a cookie-cutter fashion. Nowadays in ministry; the most effective men in leadership AND those who are ABLE to preach God’s word with passion, power, & depth aren’t always the ones that seminaries are pumping out at the ripe-old-age of 25. As to why people from “pioneer” states are the ones applying for the position is an strange thing to me as well. You couldn’t pay me all the money in the world to move to the south. My husband would need to find himself a new pastor’s wife…they’d burn us at the stake. The politics with a southern traditional church mentality…are nauseating. I’ve found the worship services & the gospel music to be painful to sit through and the pastor’s sermon’s are usually a childhood story & a bible verse, with him tied to his notes.
I would say good luck, but I don’t believe in luck… so continue see where He working … – by the kind of resumes He is bringing you & join Him there! You won’t be disappointed.
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